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39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

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39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

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39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

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Lazy Traveler Needs Fun Things To Do On The Boardwalk.

I usually go to AC to gamble, but I%26#39;m heading back out there in 2 weeks and would like to find stuff to do. June 8th-10th.

I%26#39;m staying on the Boardwalk at Showboat. I%26#39;ve been to the Lighthouse. I%26#39;d like to go to the beach.Is it even safe for swimming and lounging? I see a lot of cats there...LOL.

I%26#39;m from NYC. I hate to be overwhelmed doing tourist things. Last time I was there, I tried to find Ripley%26#39;s but kept walking around in circles and gave up! But, I found a sushi place@ Taj, which made me VERY happy.

So, I%26#39;d like to just stay along the boardwalk.

I see there%26#39;s alot to do and so on. Makes me regret spending all of that time in the hotel...

Lazy Traveler Needs Fun Things To Do On The Boardwalk.

I was just on the beach by Showboat Fri with my 4yo nephew. I do not think the beach in AC is unsafe. I believe you should stow your valuables and not leave them unattended on the beach [or anywhere]. Ripley%26#39;s is um, not that good. I would go if you have never been to 1 of their museums. Try Haunted Tales 4~D show instead [near Kentucky Ave]. coupons achotelexperts.com/coupons/atlantic-city-hau… achotelexperts.com/coupons/atlantic-city-hau…

Or take the #1 jitney to the statue of Poseidon in Gardner%26#39;s Basin [end of the line when heading towards lighthouse] go to the aquarium http://www.acaquarium.com/ %26amp; visit The ';Other Atlantic City'; atlanticcitynj.com/Mediaonline/…

aquarium coupon achotelexperts.com/coupons/ac_aquarium.htm

Lazy Traveler Needs Fun Things To Do On The Boardwalk.

Thanks rship. I don%26#39;t want to swim, just to lounge around and not spend or lose more money!

I tried to find the aquarium by foot the last time I was there (CHEAP-O!)but I%26#39;ll definatly shell out for the jitney. That%26#39;s probably my best bet, period. ;)

TITO question

My husband came from Harrah%26#39;s (Chester) with a ticket he ';forgot'; to cash, how long are they good before they expire? I was going to call Harrah%26#39;s, but thought I would cehck here first.

Thanks,

TITO question

It usually says on the ticket--somewhere. If it doesn%26#39;t, call them.

TITO question

I%26#39;m not sure how they%26#39;re handled in PA, but in NJ, tickets previously had no expiration date. However, as of some date in April, Corzine signed a law that said NJ casino tickets will only be good for one year from their issue date. There was a provision for tickets issued prior to the April date, but I%26#39;m not sure if they expired one year after their issue date, or one year after the date the law was enacted.

Either way, it makes you think twice about leaving before making sure you%26#39;ve cashed all your TITOs.

Funny how the ticket cashing machines seem to be down more often lately!

LuvBreezes

Sometimes the tickets won%26#39;t work at the machine after a specified amount of time, but you can always take it to the cage to have it redeemed.

I remember seeing on the ticket that you could use it in a machine for up to six months. After that, you must present the ticket to the main cage. I don%26#39;t recall seeing an expiration date though.

'; but you can always take it to the cage to have it redeemed.';

I saw the above post, just wanted to mention that you can cash them at the cage if less than a year old. They do expire now in NJ, one year. Not sure about PA though, sorry. There were many signs up in AC this last weekend advising of the new law that has the tickets expiring in one year now.

First gift cards have expiration dates, now TITO have expiration dates, what%26#39;s next US Currency?

I can%26#39;t see how someone not cashing a bearer instrument can turn into a windfall for these places.

Bill

Bill -

This has as much to do with accounting as anything else. The new law allows the casinos to have an entry for ';Reclaimed (by the casino) unredeemed TITOs';.

As the lost/misplaced/dog eaten/unredeemed vouchers reach one year old the amount is added to the casinos bottom line. Before the law was changed the casinos had to carry the unredeemed vouchers on the books as a liability.

Personally I feel that this is total political BS .... Help the struggling casino industry blah blah blah

But it does bring vouchers in line with Lotto tickets which usually expire one year from the drawing

Thanks for the replies, it was a decent win, but not enough to put us in another tax bracket LOL. We%26#39;ll head to Chester next week when my $70 reel cash can be played, may as well make it a worth while trip.

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Girl's weekend in September

I know this is a long way off but the time will fly...........we are moving our annual girls weekend (12th year) from Cape May to LBI. We are used to having a two bedroom/bath condo at the Star Inn which is part of Congress Hall so this may be somewhat of an adjustment. We have made reservations at Engleside INn. Two of us made the day trip down last year just to check things out so we are really excited to go somewhere new. I would appreciate any recommendations as far as restaurants and there seems to be some shopping in the Beach Haven area. We would really like a two bedroom condo so if anybody is aware of any that they would rent out for long weekends please let me know. We go weekend after labor day - Thursday thru Sunday. If not we will make due at the Engleside Inn.

Girl's weekend in September

Beach Haven has several condo units and also some town house developments (the Bay Club and Towne Club) that would fit your needs. The Townhouses are not beach front, but the Bay Club has a small pool. Check out www.homeaway.com, www.shoresummerentals.com as well as local realtors. In Sept, most will rent for periods of under a week.

Some of the condo%26#39;s have a pool, some don%26#39;t. The Engleside is in a good location, central to restaurants, shopping and the Surflight Theater. The restaurant at the Engleside is pretty good and if the night in Sep is a bit chilly, there is a roaring fireplace in the bar area that is great for dinner or a nightcap!

In Sept it is a quick drive too Barneget Light for the lighthouse, and some great antique shopping.

Girl's weekend in September

You didn%26#39;t say how many of you were going, but I would recommend the Engleside over a condo. It%26#39;s in a great location right on the ocean. The outdoor bar has entertainment in the afternoon through September and that%26#39;s always fun. They have some really nice suites. If you booked a regular room, I would change it to a suite. Some of them have been recently renovated and have huge decks with partial ocean views. Definitely ask for one of those.

Gunfire at Trump Taj Mahal in AC

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. -- Police say an employee has been shot on the gambling floor of the Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort, and a suspect is in custody.

Authorities say the employee%26#39;s injuries do not appear to be life-threatening.

It was not immediately known what led to the shooting, which happened around 4:30 p.m. Wednesday.

The injured worker is being treated at Atlantic City Medical Center.

New Jersey State Police did not immediately have the injured worker%26#39;s name or gender.

Police say they recovered the gun used in the shooting

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Gunfire at Trump Taj Mahal in AC

I hope your link has the correct info. This one says that the employee is not expected to make it. myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/052709_S…

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

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39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

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The party at 39 Degrees was awesome!! When they open definately try the steamed clams, they were some of the best I had. The shrimp was good too. (No scallops for me, I%26#39;m allergic.)

Not only was the food very good - they were very nice and hospitable to the out of towners that ';crashed'; their party. The nuber is 609-348-3999.

Dotty is the owner of Web Feet Watersports.

';there is no way to edit the copies away, but let%26#39;s try to make this the 1 we reply to';

Don%26#39;t you just select ';Report Inappropriate Post';, Remove My Post from the drop down list? Or does this just apply to replys, not topics?

I know I accidentally posted a Vegas reply to an AC topic one time, did the above procedure, it was gone in a flash.

sounds wonderful-let us know when this officially opens.

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With all of the DE%26#39;s avitars? Looks like a no smoking sign..lol

Bill

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

It is still technically %26#39;under construction%26#39; because it requires another city~required pre~opening inspection. It will be a breakfast/lunch place with indoor/outdoor waterfront seating and an emphasis on seafood fresh from the boat. There will be no liquor license :..(

BUT I was invited to a pre~opening private party on Memorial Day. I managed to get Venusuz %26amp; Ambrva into this private party outdoors on their deck. They had steamed clams, shrimp, scallops %26amp; corn~on~the~cob, and raw clams. It was beautiful weather to sit on a dock in Gardner%26#39;s basin and just eat %26amp; eat %26amp; eat. Since it was a private party, there was also lots of beer.

Besides the owner of 39Degrees, we also met the owner of Web Feet Watersports [whose name I forget] http://www.webfeetwatersports.com/

I hope my 2 %26#39;invited%26#39; guests will also post about their Memorial Day bayside adventure

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

What a great time we all had there! As usual, Ambrva was a hit at the party, trying to start a deathmatch over the last Trip Advisor hat. It was actually pretty funny, but I%26#39;ll let her tell it.

We ate TONS of steamed and raw clams, a couple plates of shrimp, beer, and Rich got me an ear of corn on the cob (with butter Slathered on - YUM!). Safe to say, a good time was had by all.

I can%26#39;t NOT mention the ADORABLE little girl, Aubrey (I%26#39;m guessing 6 years old?) with long curly hair who was acting as our waitress. She was just fantastic and too cute for words - definitely a Holly in training, lol.

The woman who%26#39;s the owner of Web Feet water sports was charming and fun, making me want to buy something from her, unlike another store owner there.

I%26#39;m definitely looking forward to checking out this restaurant - YES, they%26#39;ll serve breakfast til 2 pm, which SO works for me. I didn%26#39;t check out the interior tho I think the others did, but it%26#39;s a fantastic setting for a relaxing lunch by the bay, and I plan to spend some time there as soon as it opens.

39Degrees, new waterfront restaurant in Gardner's Basin

We only had one TA hat left and there were two cooks. I suggested that the fight to the death over it. It seemed like a reasonable solution to me. ;-)

Suggestions please!

My girlfriends and I are looking to head to Wildwood for an extended weekend in August. We%26#39;re in our early 30%26#39;s, and would like a place that is CLEAN, has an oceanfront or at least an ocean view, is not *too* far from the Boardwalk, and preferably has it%26#39;s own bar/lounge either in the hotel or by the pool (yes, and it must have a pool).

we were originally looking in the Crest, but I was just informed that alcohol is not allowed to be served there! We%26#39;re not rowdy, party girls by any means, but would like to enjoy a cocktail or two by the pool if so desired....a place that has entertainment or live music would also be appreciated. Any suggestions please?

Suggestions please!

Try the Bolero http://boleroresort.com/

It offers great views at the roof top pool. I think your group may be happier in the much newer hotel section, they do have an older motel wing.

Enjoy!

Suggestions please!

Most places to stay are Motels, not Hotels so very few have bar and poolside service. However, you can certainly bring drinks from your room to the pools. The only stipulation is no glass normally. You can stay in the Crest and bring coolers out to the pool areas without an issue.. I stay at the Gondolier or the Attache, and we bring plenty of drinks out to the pool. If you want more pool type drinks, bring a blender and mix them up in your room, then bring them out and enjoy...

as mentioned in the other postings about bringing your own to the pool etc. i stayed at the blue palms a few years in a row, they are very close to everything. there is a bar right beside the place and a few up and down the street. the boardwalk is right across the street so its close to the beach as well. hope ya have a great time. ill scout some areas out for you. my family and i are heading there in june. we were not able to stay at the blue palms, they were booked so we are staying in north wildwood this year. oh yes, they do have a pool. they actually have 2 pools. they own the former white star which has a pool and is right beside it. if you call them, you can request a room there. it actually sits in front of the blue palms and their sundeck you can sit up on and watch the traffic go by and see part of the boardwalk in between stores.

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Looking for very clean hotel in Wildwood

We are looking for a very clean hotel in Wildwood to stay at with our two children and baby that has daily maid service. We would prefer ocean front but would consider others as long as they are clean. A nice pool would be great too. And should be fairly close to boardwalk. Anyone know of any? Thank you so much!

Looking for very clean hotel in Wildwood

Hi ';beachmommy03';....you won%26#39;t find any hotels ';very'; clean...Personnally, I%26#39;m used to 3 1/2 - 4 star ';hotels';. Of course, I can relate to you, especially when you%26#39;re taking children with you, you have to be extra careful. For the past few years I have been taking my grandson to N. Wildwood..we stay at the (LANDMARK MOTEL 225 E. SCHELLENGER AVE.) www.landmarkwildwood.com/specials.php you can request for a brochure (free) the boardwalk is 1 1/2 blocks away, their are two sides, of the motel...one side you can see the boardwalk clear as day (my grandson loves it) so do I especially at night when it%26#39;s lit up....The oppisite side is where you have the view of the pool...Many more children and famililies....The side I stay on is much more quietier (whew) ...Hope this helps..Their are specials...SUNDAY AND leaving FRIDAY, much CHEAPER I ALWAYS go for that.

Looking for very clean hotel in Wildwood

We have stayed at Armada by the Sea. Beachfront, clean, nice pool and nice family running the place. It is in WW Crest.

Two very nice hotels to stay at are the Port Royal and the Pan American. Both are in the Crest right on Ocean Avenue. Very clean hotels with restaurants and great pool areas. Pan American is closer to the boardwalk.

Not sure if you booked yet, but the Gondolier or the Attache Motels in the beginning of Wildwood Crest are very nice and only 3 blocks from the start of the boardwalk and they are right on the beach

my family has stayed at the blue palms in wildwood and bird of paradise in north wildwood. both are within 1/2 block to a block of the boardwalk/beach. both have pools. as far as ';clean'; everyone has their own opinion. i think both places are nice. employees are friendly. i havent stayed at the bird of paradise for a few years because we were always lucky to get a room at the blue palms. the blue palms also offers discount to the piers on the boardwalk for rides and food. another nice deal for families. hope you find a place. i%26#39;ve been going there 33 years and my daughter 15 years. we r heading there the end of june. if i find anything else, ill get back to ya.

Career Gals come out of the keyboards and into the streets

Craigslist has banned their wares, so it%26#39;s back to pounding the pavement and/or carpeting. w/the big holiday coming up, the ACPD are having a crackdown on career gals.

myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/051909_A…

AC Hit By Craigslist

Crackdown Fallout

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. - Self-proclaimed ';call girls'; tell it like it is, saying the craigslist crackdown has forced them to look for business inside casinos.

Many of the women say that craigslist was safer because it took them off the streets soliciting, reported Fox 29%26#39;s Shawnette Wilson. Others say it%26#39;s simply about getting more cash if you work the casinos. But many of these women quickly found out that working the casinos is just as much a gamble as prostituting on the street.

';I was arrested right on Pacific Avenue,'; says one woman who doesn%26#39;t want to be identified for safety reasons. She admits she is a prostitute.

She%26#39;s one of more than two dozen women arrested by Atlantic City Police Special Investigations Unit in a prostitution sweep over the weekend.

';We arrested 27 adults and one juvenile,” says Sgt. Rodney Ruark of Atlantic City Police.

But this wasn%26#39;t your typical sweep. While some were arrested on the street, others, like one 34-year-old, were working the casinos.

';We were in Caesars and we were at the bar and were approached by undercover state officers and we went from Caesars to the Tropicana,'; says the woman.

Police say casino managers turned them on to the women, complaining that they were working the lobbies and the bars at five different casinos including Showboat, Taj Mahal and Caesars.

';We dispatched the officers to the different lobbies and lounges that we received the complaints on,'; says Sgt. Ruark.

Police say some of the women said they abandoned the streets for the casinos after craigslist came under fire for its erotic services ads, many soliciting sex.

The Internet site started banning the ads on May 13. One prostitute says soliciting on craigslist was safer than being on the streets but now that it%26#39;s no longer an option, casinos are the latest safe haven.

';You have people watching so you’re not as capable of getting hurt as you are outside,'; she tells Fox 29.

Another admitted prostitute says working the casinos is more about getting the top dollar. ';Some girls might think it%26#39;s more money.';

Many casino patrons say they are thankful to Atlantic City Police for getting right on top of the problem as soon as they heard of it from casino managers.

Career Gals come out of the keyboards and into the streets

';One prostitute says soliciting on craigslist was safer than being on the streets but now that it%26#39;s no longer an option, casinos are the latest safe haven.

';You have people watching so you’re not as capable of getting hurt as you are outside,'; she tells Fox 29.';

Tell that to the murder victims up of the so called Craig%26#39;s List killer.

Career Gals come out of the keyboards and into the streets

They%26#39;re kidding.....right?

Since craigslist cracked down, they are looking for business in the casino%26#39;s????

They were always in the casino%26#39;s......always will be in the casino%26#39;s......

Anybody who believes different....I have a bridge for sale..lol

As for safer on craigslist......ah.....nah!

Bill

was really suprised back in late april when on 2 seperate occasions i was approached at harrahs. one was an obvious pro

but the other looked no older than my college age sons,and except for the fact that she smiled and wanted to engage in conversation with a 50 (ok 49) out of shape marrioed guy id have never suspected she was a pro by looking at her.

We were at Caesar%26#39;s a couple of weeks ago, and the %26#39;working girls%26#39; were all over the Toga Bar! They were SO obvious, it reminded me of our stay at the Las Vegas Hilton, where it apparently is just considered to be part of the LV experience. Not a part I particularly appreciated, so I hope AC doesn%26#39;t follow suit.

LuvBreezes

I%26#39;m particularly amused by the last line: ';Many casino patrons say they are thankful to Atlantic City Police for getting right on top of the problem as soon as they heard of it from casino managers.'; Getting right on top of the problem doesn%26#39;t sound quite right when we%26#39;re talking call girls.

As for AC police cracking down on the problem because it%26#39;s no longer allowed on Craiglist, I%26#39;m with Bill - there have been ';professional'; women in AC for as long as I%26#39;ve been coming here, and they%26#39;ve had other crackdowns. Pretty much every year, it seems. Makes for good press for AC and the ACPD, tho.

Go to Ceasars bar downstairs and the Borgota bar and you will see Call Girls. I was approached by two from Cali who who wanted $700 a piece. I found out that Ceasars management thru them out. Also there are 2 Koreans who walk around the Taj slot/bar. I guess they accept quarters for payment.

hey gangster. no doubt most of us guys have been approached,but had to laugh at the fact you took the time to learn what the going rate was? just joking.

gansta what did the 700 entail? do you know if they would charge extra if a midget was involved?

%26gt;%26gt;I was approached by two from Cali who who wanted $700 a piece%26lt;%26lt;

I have been approached by working gals b4, but never that much money, $700 each gives me a clue to the poster%26#39;s looks

Roflmao @ rship!!!!!!!

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Man Convicted for chesting @ CT casinos

lohud.com/article/20090528/NEWS/905280439

Often wonder why dealers would risk their jobs over something like this.

Man Convicted for chesting @ CT casinos

this is the secon instance i read where employees at both foxwoods and mohegan were in on the scam. i wonder how someone approaches an employee and convinces them to commit a criminal act. not that i would ever do it. you would think they would be arrested immediately.

Whats with all the repeat topics??????

WTF???????

Technical difficulty!!??

Whats with all the repeat topics??????

Yea, it looks like there was a glitch a little after 5pm.

Whats with all the repeat topics??????

Yea it kept saying ';POST ERROR';. Out of frustration members kept hitting the post button.

Thanks...thought i was seeing doubles, no, triples, no........anyway u get the idea(LOL)thanks!

Parking at or near PATH station at Pavonia/Newport

I stayed at a hotel in this area last year and took the train over to Manhattan. Very convenient and easy. This time I have a car and will just be coming for the day. Can anyone provide any help in where to park my car for the day and evening coming back to pick it up after the Yankee game.

Parking at or near PATH station at Pavonia/Newport

There should be a few garages in the area.

Anyone will do.

Parking at or near PATH station at Pavonia/Newport

just park it in the garage by newport mall (1-2 blocks west of the path station, right by JC Penney (there%26#39;s 5 other garages 1 more block west from there but it%26#39;s an unnecessary walk).

whatever you do, DON%26#39;T try to save a few bucks by leaving it in the BJ%26#39;s / shoprite parking lot that%26#39;s in the area. your car will get towed.

Isn%26#39;t that the mall parkade? Can you leave your car there overnight or for an extended period of time?

(off topic slightly) New Yorkers - Manhattan question...

On my upcoming vacation, I will be stopping on my drive from Boston to AC to visit a friend who works at ABC on W 66 St. near Lincoln Center.

What would be the best way to get in there? Should I drive in and take my chances on finding parking near there? Should I park somewhere outside of Manhattan and take the train? How much would parking cost for about 2 hours midday during the week (on average)? It would be cheaper to take the subway, but probably more hassle, and I am sure that I would have to pay for parking at that lot too.

Any advice?

thanks!

ken

(off topic slightly) New Yorkers - Manhattan question...

That area of NYC is tough to get to via public transportation, if this is the ABC offices On West End.

If it is the one where Regis is taped you could use public transportation but if you are only stopping for a few hours it would be best to park in one of the lots around there. If you are lucky you may get a spot on the steet.

(off topic slightly) New Yorkers - Manhattan question...

It will be kind of hard to find parking. You may be able to find parking but you will have to drive around a bit. Keep quarters in hand just in case you find a parking spot with meters that just take quarters. They are putting up municipal meters where you put the money in the machine and then put the ticket in the windshield.

Parking in a garage for 2 hours will be costly. ABC is on Columbus so there will be plenty of meters as well as Broadway.

I forgot they have another building but if its the original building, its on Columbus. The other one is on West End Avenue.

Drive in. Too much of a hassle and time waster to leave your car outside of the city or another Manhattan neighborhood (like mine, in Chelsea, where it would be less expensive to park.) I think you should ask your friend to identify the least expensive parking lots in the area. There is always someone in every office that drives in and looks for the cheapest one.

go to brordway around69 70 71 street you will find a place to park at a meter .

you will probably have to park in a garage and it will be about $40 for the two hours.

ps if you go to www.bestparking.com you can find location and prices of garages in the area but i think you will find prices are relatively the same.

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Outdoor Pools In Atlantic City

My Husband and I have a getaway planned for late June to Atlantic City. (Sun %26amp; Mon. Nights) We currently hava a package booked at Showboat, but now I am second guessing myself...My # 1 wish for the trip is to sit in the sun by the pool, read a book %26amp; sip a frozen drink. (I am not really a beach person) My Husband will be bored at the poll after 10 min...that%26#39;s why we picked AC...I can soak up some sun %26amp; Relax while he hits the slots. What hotel has the best pool...I know Brogata is nice, but a little pricier than we want to go, and we would rather be on the boardwalk. Any suggestions anyone has will be greatly appreciated.

Outdoor Pools In Atlantic City

Summer will be expensive wherever you stay.

I would avoid Caesars. Their pool is more a puddle. The pool has a nice deck are but the pool is way too small for a hotel that size.

It is a nice hotel otherwise.

Outdoor Pools In Atlantic City

tropicana has an outdoor pool with a large seating area, if you go book the south tower as it was recently redone

here are pix of Showboat%26#39;s pool

www.flickr.com/photos/fritz_pj/2792548328/ …tripadvisor.com/media/…pool-view.jpg

The one time we tried Showboat%26#39;s pool, we didn%26#39;t like it at all. It was really small and just very unrelaxing. There is also no bar at the pool. Tropicana or The Chelsea would definitely be on top of my list for your needs.

One more note on the Borgata pool. They just renovated the pool area in less than a year. It was WAY too small. By early morning, they stopped people from going out there becuase it was already full.

I don%26#39;t know how the new area will be. They did expand it and also put more deck space around the second side pool that they used as more of a private area for the cabanas, which seem to be gone now. So we will see. I%26#39;ll post a review in 3 weeks when I%26#39;m there at the pool.

I actually dont mind caesars pool. Yes it is small, but there is a great bar right next to it. Also, if you go up about 10 stairs from the pool, there is an adults only sundeck....and the waitresses serve drinks up there too!

Thanks for all the info, everybody!

That pic of the Showboat pool eases my mind some..It%26#39;s not big, but looks like there is some sun up there on the sundeck. We got a great deal on the package, (almost too good to be true) and that%26#39;s when I started getting nervous.

Have a great time!

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Hotel recommendation near shopping

I%26#39;m a mum from UK bringing my daughter to a boarding school end August for early Sept registration. We are flying into Newark, but I don%26#39;t want to drive, if possible. I need to book a hotel in Princeton where there is good public transport to shopping malls, so that I can get her fixed up with bedding, towels etc. I don%26#39;t want designer stuff, as she%26#39;ll be throwing it all away at the end of the year, before she comes back to the UK. I don%26#39;t mind getting taxis now and again, but I don%26#39;t want to spend a fortune in travel expenses.

Hotel recommendation near shopping

Getting from EWR to Princeton is easy using NJ Transit train.

Unfortunately, public transportation is spotty once you are in Princeton.

I would suggest contacting the boarding school for suggestions.

Hotel recommendation near shopping

As Broadwaynyc mentioned, the public transport situation once you get to Princeton is not ideal, but it might be workable if you plan carefully. Here are some options:

1. Stay at the Princeton Hyatt Regency or Hyatt Place. Both offer free shuttle service within 5 miles, which is enough to get you to a large number of stores (please call to confirm that this service still exists and operates during the hours/days when you%26#39;ll need it; I%26#39;m relying on their websites). Hyatt Place is probably cheaper, and there are several restaurants within walking distance (also some shopping -- but probably not the sort of places you%26#39;ll need for your daughter). The Hyatt Regency is nice, but it%26#39;s in a large office park that is deserted outside of normal business hours.

2. If you want something more basic, try the Comfort Inn Lawrenceville, located adjacent to Quakerbridge Mall, where you%26#39;ll find the local branches of Macy%26#39;s, Sears and J C Penney. In addition, you can use the New Jersey Transit buses (routes 600 and 605) to get from the mall to the Nassau Park shopping center, where you%26#39;ll find two large discount stores, Walmart and Target, which will probably have much of what you need. Rooms at the Comfort Inn tend to be small, but I%26#39;ve had relatives stay there and they found it acceptable.

3. The NJ Transit buses also stop near some of the other hotels along Route 1, such as the Marriott Residence Inn (the Carnegie Center location, not the Princeton location -- which, despite the name, is farther from Princeton)and the Palmer Inn (a Clarion Hotel).

4. The bus would also allow you to stay at the Nassau Inn, which is in the heart of Princeton (across from the Princeton University campus). The 605 NJ Transit bus stops near here. It%26#39;s a charming neighborhood -- many smaller stores and restaurants within walking distance -- but doesn%26#39;t offer the sort of shopping you need on this trip.

By the time you finish your shopping, I imagine you will have a large amount of merchandise to transport to your daughter%26#39;s school. For that trip, you might want to splurge on a taxi, but a bus might be feasible depending on the exact location (and how much stuff you%26#39;re carrying).

As Broadwaynyc said, you can take the NJ Transit train from Newark Airport to the Princeton Junction station (use the Northeast Corridor route). For info on the train and the various buses I%26#39;ve mentioned, see the NJ Transit website (njtransit.com).

Thank you. The information you have given is very helpful.

Transport from EWR

I am trying to get to Hampton/Clinton this weekend from EWR. I do not want to rent a car. What is the best way to get from EWR? Can you help me navigate the trains/buses?

Luggage storage at Newark Airport

I was trying to find luggage storage at Newark last month and didn%26#39;t have any luck with my airline or the airport.

There is a solution!!!

The company is called NBS Storage and Delivery and they have a desk at Carousel #1 Arrivals level, at Newark International Airport. They don%26#39;t have a web site, so if you need additional information, call them at (908) 933-0503. They open at 7am and close at 1am.

They stored our luggage, 2 bags in total, while we went into Manhattan for the day, before our flight. The total cost was 15.00.

You tell them what time you need it back and they were right on time.Unfortunately our flight was cancelled and we had to stay overnight, but that is another story.

It was the perfect solution and its availability is clearly not well known.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Luggage storage at Newark Airport

Thanks so much for the info on luggage storage...it is a great help. Do you by any chance remember in which terminal NBS is located??

Luggage storage at Newark Airport

Anyone having more info on this?

Hi

I was really delighted to see that you had posted such a helpful solution to luggage storage at Newark.

Could you tell me if they charged you per bag plus time?

Thanks so much.....

Hi

I was really happy to find your solution to luggage storage to Newark International.

We have a stopover from New York to Glasgow in November this year. Could you tell me if you were charged per bag and for the time stored?

Thanks so much.......

Just want to thank you for your most helpful post!

I just got off the phone with NBS. When I asked where they were located, I was told they are ';located in the Continental terminal between carousels 1 %26amp; 2';.

Hope this helps!

Just got off the phone with them as well. They are actually operating 24 hours a day now. Detailed daily cost is $16 per bag if the bag is over 60 pounds; if under 60 pounds it%26#39;s $10 for the first bag and $5 for each additional bag.

Hope this is useful.

This post was made in 2006, does anyone know if the NBS Storage and Delivery service is still in the same location as of October 2007?

Here%26#39;s a crazy idea.

Try calling them.

I just used this service this weekend after reading about it here and thank you very much cause i certainly woudlnt have stumbled across it.

Any airline staff member you ask about luggage storage says ';nope not since 9-11';

We called the number given here and found them between baggage carousel 1 and 2 in Terminal C.

There is a sign on a pillar that says NBS and a stainless steel counter thing.

I was a little worried as no one seemed to know them (it is a private company unrelated to the airport).

But it worked out very well for me and I will be using them to pop into the city during layovers in the future.

Ray Kot

Unfortunately, Ray Kot has passed :(

Ray Kot

Oops, sorry about posting this as a new topic. I thought I was replying to the existing post. MODs feel free to remove. Sorry.

beaches

We will be travelling to Cape May at the end of June and staying on Franklin St. Could someone tell me the closest beach? And the nicest beach in this area? What are the goods and bads of different beaches in the area?

Do you have to have a beach pass for all beaches? If so where do you get them and can you buy these ahead of time?

Thanks,

beaches

The entire strand of beaches along Cape May%26#39;s southern, or Atlantic Ocean side is really superb. In the Franklin Street area (about two blocks south of Franklin) is the Howard Street and Franklin Street Beaches. For a little more privacy, you can walk a block eastward to Queen St Beach.

Both are within walking distance for you. If you%26#39;re looking for a little more privacy, you can either go to the Delaware Bay side near Cape May Point or to Higbee Beach on the northwestern portion of the island. All beaches in Cape May require a permit for visitors over 12, except Higbee and Sunset Beach (not a good beach for sunbathing).

You can either purchase your tag at the beach when you visit, or purchase season passes ahead of time.

Daily $4.00

3-Day $9.00

Weekly (Sat - Sat) $13.00

Depending on how long you will be staying, the season tags may or may not be cheaper. Here%26#39;s the info for the season passes-

Beach tags are available for purchase, in person, at the City Hall Tax Office, located at

643 Washington Street, from 9:00 AM – 4:00 PM, Monday thru Friday, excluding Holidays.

The in-person per tag costs for a Seasonal Tag are as follow:

$25.00 beginning April 1

A maximum of five (5) seasonal tags, per season, per individual, can be purchased.

Up to five (5) Seasonal Tags, per season, per individual, can also be ordered by mail.

The mail order per tag cost for a Seasonal Tag are as follow:

$25.75 beginning April 1

To order, send check, made out to City of Cape May, and mail to -

Beach Tags - Tax Office

643 Washington Street

Cape May, NJ 08204

Have a great trip!

Ben Miller

beaches

Good Evening,

Please see my post regarding the beach tag prices. I got the prices delivered to me by City Hall since I work at the Front Desk of an oceanfront property.. I think Ben have last years prices. My thread has the times of day you will need them and where they can be purchased.

The closest beach would be Franklin the the Beach. This is pretty popular beach area. If you make a right when you get to beach av and go down by 1st av or Patterson, the beach is wider and seems less crowded. It would be best to drive as it is about and 8 block walk from the beachfront. All the beaches are beautiful and well maintained. Enjoy Cape May.

Pat

Holy moly! Pat is totally right, it seems that a few of the prices I quoted are wrong. I%26#39;m really sorry about that. I looked at the wrong reference and as Pat eluded to, I gave you last year%26#39;s prices.

I%26#39;m really sorry about that. I should have suggested you look at Pat%26#39;s earlier beach tag topic in the first place.

Again, my apologies.

Ben Miller

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Trip report May 25-26

My husband and I spent Memorial Day and the next day in Cape May after spending the weekend in the Rehobeth Beach area. On Monday morning we took the Cape May/Lewes Ferry from Lewes and arrived in Cape May around 1:30. We had a great ride on the ferry and thoroughly enjoyed the trip.

We checked in to the Sea Crest Hotel which was perfect for our needs. We had the standard hotel room, which had a refrigerator (but no microwave) and a comfy bed and very nice bathroom, clearly recently renovated. Enjoyed sitting out on the balcony in the twilight hour sipping the beers/cocktails we brought with us. The staff was very friendly and the fact that there is a laundry on site made us very happy after spending a couple of hours on the beach in rather windy conditions and taking a dip in the hotel jacuzzi--the towels/bathing suits needed some sprucing up.

We had dinner at The Pier House, which we highly recommend. It is a bit on the pricey side but well worth it. We had an excellent meal served by Joy, a charming waitress who was very well-versed in the cuisine. Her recommendations proved to be right on the money. Try the lamb chop lollipops for an appetizer--outstanding. I had a flash fried flounder which was out of this world and my husband had a veal porterhouse which was also excellent. We brought back the leftovers and ate them for lunch the next day--what a treat to have such wonderful food for lunch in the comfort of your hotel room!

Tuesday was a crappy day, weather-wise but we took the opportunity to explore the area. We are seriously thinking about buying a small vacation home in the area within the next 4 or 5 years and then ultimately retiring there. As we are not wealthy people, we looked primarily in the Villas area, which has small cottages quite close to Delaware Bay that are somewhat affordable(in the $150K-200K range). We were encouraged to see that not everything in the area is outrageously expensive. If any of you natives can direct us to places similar to Villas where we can do some research, we would be most appreciative.

All in all, a great trip. We LOVE Cape May and the surrounding area. Great place.

Trip report May 25-26

Sounds like you had a great trip, thanks for posting the details! The Pier House (or Water%26#39;s Edge for those that haven%26#39;t been down in a couple years) is consistently a great choice.

As far as the house, Villas is a good choice for the price. Any of the towns in the northern part of Lower Township will be good for you, just remember- off the island. The northern part of the Cape May island is actually a part of Lower Township.

Hope this helps!

Ben Miller

Trip report May 25-26

Villas is part of Lower Township. There are several other communities including North Cape May, Erma Townbank and Fishing Creek that are part of Lower Twp. Most homes in NCM and Fishing Creek have public water and sewer. Not sure about the other communities. I know that many of the homes do not have both. Since I live in NCM, I am a bit biased in favor of this community. Why don%26#39;t you Google realtor.com and check out some of the homes. The zip code is 08204, same as Cape may.

Did you check out ';Village Green'; right in the middle of Cape May. I have no idea about prices. I was wondering if home prices have gone down at this time.

Thanks so much for posting your trip report.

For your price range, the Villas is probably the best bet, but as a prior poster said northern parts of Lower Township, such as Erma, might be in your price range as well.

Like Tony, I think North Cape May is very nice as well, but I%26#39;m not sure there would be much in your price range. It%26#39;s possible though given the current economic environment.

You didn%26#39;t mention whether or not you used a realtor. Apex Realty is located in the Villas. I worked with the broker, Dan Senico, a few years ago on a purchase and I found him to be very knowledgeable and honest. He would know the Villas as well as Lower Township. There are parts of the Villas that are just fine, but there are some areas to avoid.

Also - the zip code for the Villas is 08251.

Happy househunting!

On the Boardwalk...me and my grandson...

We are planning to visit Atlantic City this summer (August) for my daughter%26#39;s birthday. This will be our first trip to AC with my grandson, who will be almost 5. Besides spending most of the day on the beach and/or pool, what else can I plan on doing that will be kid-friendly? I%26#39;ve been to AC twice before, but this is first time with a child. I%26#39;m guessing walking the boardwalk, chasing ses gulls, riding in the ';buggies'; will keep him amused, but I%26#39;d appreciate suggestions for other activities I might not be familiar with. I plan on spending the majority of the day/evening with K.C. (my grandson) so that my daughter has plenty of free time (ain%26#39;t I a good mom?) LOL.... We will have a car, I thought driving to see Lucy the Elephant might be fun. Thanks in advance for your help. And any suggestions for family, cheaper, local restaurants would be helpful, too, as the casino restaurants tend to be pricey.

On the Boardwalk...me and my grandson...

You can visit the Aquarium, walk around in the Caesars mall, the Trop has an IMAX movie theater and they have a place located on the boardwalk that serves pizza and hot dogs. The Trump Plaza has a Nathan%26#39;s right on the boardwalk.

On the Boardwalk...me and my grandson...

Don%26#39;t forget the water show at the end of the pier at caesars

No suggestions as I%26#39;ve found the beach with buckets/shovels/toys, lots of sunscreen an umbrella, juice more than enough entertainment for a little one. What fun he will have! If you have a fridge in your room, you can have PB and J, veggies and fruit on the beach as a picnic.

I%26#39;m not one to recommend chains, but I like the brightness of Johnny Rockets. Have a blast and take lots of pics!

Watch out for those AC seagulls. The last time I was there (a month ago), they were chasing me.

Of course, it%26#39;s more crowded now so they may not be as hungry and aggresive (they were swooping down and stealing food right out of people%26#39;s hands).

As for family friendly restaurants--the new Nathans is good (as someone mentioned). It%26#39;s a combination of Nathans and Arthur Treachers (and Haagen Daz, too, I think). They seemed to have some really nice sandwiches as well.

And I like Corky%26#39;s at the Trop for barbeque. Your grandson might find that interesting.

Enjoy!

Consider going to Ocean City%26#39;s boardwalk, lots of rides and mini golf for small children. Also off shore on route 322 about 15 miles from AC is a great place for small chidren called storybook land.

http://storybookland.com/

there are go carts at the central pier, there is an arcade on the boardwalk somewhere by the trop, also mini golf at Kennedy plaza ( by boardwalk hall)

Less expensive restaurants:

by The Walk, Tun Tavern www.tuntavern.com Los Amigos http://www.losamigosrest.com/AC/ Cavo Crepe Cafe http://www.cavocrepecafe.com/

By Trop, Tony%26#39;s Baltimore Grill [best pizza] www.baltimoregrill.com/

by Bally%26#39;s, Bill%26#39;s Gyros 1607 Boardwalk

For inexpensive beach toys %26amp; umbrellas try Peanut World 1645 Boardwalk [at Illinois Ave aka MLK]

just want to add Smithville http://www.smithvillenj.com/ for unique shops, radio controlled boats, paddleboats %26amp; a train ride

The rair forest cafe is great for kids. Try taking a ride on the rolling chairs bargin for price for the ride.

Thanks for all the great suggestions, everyone.

Follow-up questions:

Where is the rain forest cafe?

Where is Central Pier?

We%26#39;re really looking forward to this vacation, 73 days and counting...

And by the way, I understand about the seagull warning... LOL... my daughter had an unfortunate sea gull incident at Caesars pool a few years ago--he zoomed down and stole a hot dog right out of her hand--she%26#39;s still leery about birds in general.

The rainforest cafe is at Trump Plaza and Central Pier is near Tennessee Ave, 1400 Boardwalk.

Sands Bethlehem

Sands is comping alcohol at Bethlehem. How soon will the other PA casinos follow suit?

Sands Bethlehem

Do you know this for a fact? My parents and sister are going there today and I can let them know.

crystal

Sands Bethlehem

If someone tries the IRISH PUB or EMIRIL%26#39;s please let us know.

Is it crowded? first day . .

Are the VP machines 6/5, 7/5, (?) 9/6

(JOB) or (BP), please report . . .

Hi we are planning on going on Sunday, so I called with a few questions, YES they are comping drinks as long as you are playing!!! No free play yet and no card upgrade with a premium players card, although he told me that with a premium Venetian or Palazzo card they would most likely set you up with a host or something similar.

If someone travels to SANDS from NYC, the bus

package gives $20 in free slot pay. Ticket costs

$32.

BTW ,

Here is the bus schedule from nyc.

transbridgelines.com/print_sched_sands.htm

I read that JOB varies with denom, most being 8/5 or 8/6 no mention of 9/6

ALSO: does the BAR in the center of the room have

VP? What denom? What pay-table?

Thanks.

Was there for the ';test day'; on Wednesday. Nice place, all new machines, drinks flowing faster than you could drink them. The center bar had a live band, I can%26#39;t answer the VP at the bar question because I didn%26#39;t get that far.

I went to the test run of Emeril%26#39;s restaurant. Emeril is supposed to stick around for the first few days, so lots of people peering through the glass to get a look at him actually cook in a kitchen.

The food was OK. Its a chophouse, and steaks are in the $30-40 range. Everything was cooked well, but it%26#39;s pricey. Some of the starters are over $20.

The drinks will be comped, as far as I know. Haven%26#39;t had a chance to gamble there yet.

July 4th ---where to stay with my family

Hello, I would like to take my family to the statue of liberty to see the fireworks on july 4th. Is it better to stay at a hotel near the Newark airport and drive over to the monument. Just staying one night. Travelling from vineland new jersey. I appreciate an help you can give me! Murph

July 4th ---where to stay with my family

You can drive to Liberty State Park, exit 14B off the Turnpikes Bay Extention. The monument you will have to take a boat. The airport would be much easier to drive to LSP. I would reccomend the Wyndahm at the airport. Here are a few links.

www.destinationjerseycity.com

www.gonewark.com

www.goironbound.com

July 4th ---where to stay with my family

Thanks for the helpful information! Murph

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American Idol Tour @ Boardwalk Hall

At the risk of sounding even ';lame-r'; than usual, I am a confessed AI fan and would love to see them perform at Boardwalk Hall in August.

If anyone is offered free tickets you don%26#39;t want, please PM me.

By the way the BEST seats-- front and center-- were being offered at $1275 EACH a couple days ago, just FYI, LOL.

American Idol Tour @ Boardwalk Hall

Hey FineMind!

Oh I love AI- I am also a fan! I am still upset that Adam didn%26#39;t win.. LOL. If he ever has a concert, thats the one I want to see!

I know a lady who went to the tour show 2 yrs ago at Boardwalk Hall and she said, it was hard to hear them sing with all the young girls screaming..hmmm.. WOW, those prices are so high!

American Idol Tour @ Boardwalk Hall

Total AI fan here as well. I took my older daughter last year and we are going again this year - just the two of us (my husband would rather have water torture than go to the AI concert...) I got the tixs on presale and got pretty good seats - 1st level balcony, 2nd row. I believe I paid something like $55/each + tax and all that junk. I do know they still have tixs on sale, they are probably not awesome seats, but I don%26#39;t think Boardwalk Hall is a huge venue, so wherever you sit, you%26#39;ll probably be fine.

I am trying to figure out how to get Meet and Greet Passes this year (where you can actually meet the Idols before the show.) Any ideas? It would make my daughter%26#39;s world.

Thanks!

Suzanne

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What's your favorite Cape May restaurant (casual)?

As a way of kick-starting a little conversation in here and getting everyone thinking about that wonderful island we all love so much, I thought I would throw the question out. Plus, these answers will give new visitors to Cape May the opportunity to hear what us %26#39;regulars%26#39; like and why we like it.

So let%26#39;s hear it- what%26#39;s your favorite and why? I%26#39;ll start things off...

My favorite is actually a three-way tie between Carney%26#39;s, Pilot House and Lucky Bones. I love all three and have visited them many times, but I have to say that Lucky Bones is probably my favorite. I have never had anything that I didn%26#39;t absolutely love at Lucky Bones.

On the other hand, Carney%26#39;s makes what I believe to be the best crab cake in Cape May and the Pilot House offers some really good comfort food. In the winter, the Pilot House is a must-visit qith it%26#39;s local, small town feel and the warmth that%26#39;s thrown off from that great big fireplace.

Cabanas is also very good and I enjoy their food, but I don%26#39;t drink and the place is more geared to their bar. According to many people I%26#39;ve talked to that do enjoy the spirits, Cabanas makes some tremendous drinks and it%26#39;s a great spot for sports or live music.

Ben Miller

What's your favorite Cape May restaurant (casual)?

I love Carney%26#39;s and grew up going for a late dinner with my parents so we could listen to the Irish singer that played. I also think for a casual family meal with a can%26#39;t miss menu, Mangia Mangia is great. Love the big bowl of salad they bring to the table and how they refill if needed, the bread and all the reasonably priced Italian dinners, especially the baked pasta dishes.

What's your favorite Cape May restaurant (casual)?

For casual dining, I%26#39;m going to have to go with The Lobster House. I knowwww it can be a long wait and a tourist trap in the summer, but the food is always good and worth the wait, imo.

I also really like The Jackson Mountain Cafe on Washington St.

Backstreet Cafe on Park Blvd in West Cape May is my favorite - fresh food - great service - interesting menu - real desserts - BYOB - parking - and friendly people.

For breakfast - it%26#39;s George%26#39;s for sure.

We%26#39;ve also had a lot of luck with Pilot House for lunch/dinner.

I think Black Duck wins by a mile.

I don%26#39;t think the Black Duck really qualifies as casual though, more along the lines of fine dining. Great food though!

Incidentally, I just had dinner at the Pilot House and it was awesome. We had the nicest waitress named Eleanor and things were great. The only problem for me was that I filled up on the cheesy crab dip appetizer (it%26#39;s my cheat day on the diet) and I had to take my NY strip steak home. But darn, it was all really good!

Ben Miller

C-View,C-View,C-View!! The wings can%26#39;t be beat,the cheesesteak hoagies are fabulous,,everything on the menu is very inexpensive!!

Lucky bones come in as a close second,,Love the pizza,and Lemon Drop Martini%26#39;s!! Cheers!

I have to agree about C-View!

Ben Miller

I really enjoyed the food at Lucky Bones as well.

ditto the pizza at lucky bones - to die for!!!!!!

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HET Slot Finder

Does anybody know if the Slot Finder on Harrahs website is accurate?

HET Slot Finder

Not sure. I was using it last night to see if there were any Star Trek machines in AC and it said no. I was sad, but I%26#39;ll confirm next time. I did confirm that there are Wizard of Oz machines at Caesars, but I learned that here.

TC

HET Slot Finder

Sure wish it were really a slot %26#39;finder%26#39;

It merely tells you they have the machines-but doesn%26#39;t tell you where in the ding dong casino to %26#39;find%26#39; them!Yea,I know they move machines and it would have to be updated--but wouldn%26#39;t it be better for them if I could make a beeline to the machine and start throwing $ in instead of wandering around for 30 minutes not playing?

Johnnylite

I was just at Resorts,They have them there.

Harrah%26#39;s Marina has a slot finder on the casino floor that gives you on a map the location of the slots you%26#39;re looking for. I%26#39;ve used it and have found it to be accurate. They don%26#39;t have that on line at this time but it would be nice if they could.

I know I had posted here about Top Dollar slots and someone responded that they were at Showboat by the House of Blues but on the Slot Finder it doesn%26#39;t list any there.

No, it is not accurate. I went to the Harrah%26#39;s slot finder to see if the Harrah%26#39;s in Chester, PA had the slot ';Dragon Lord'; for a penny. The slot finder came up with no results; and of course they have 6 of those machines at HET in Chester.

Parking open 24h near the new Westin Jersey City?

I%26#39;ve never been to JC or this new Westin Hotel. We%26#39;ll be staying here for 5 days and will commute to Manhattan daily and want to leave the car in a parkade. Which one is the cheapest and accessible 24h-7. Thanks for the help!

Parking open 24h near the new Westin Jersey City?

Accessible 24/7? why?

You don%26#39;t need a car in NYC.

Parking open 24h near the new Westin Jersey City?

Well in some parkades or parking you can%26#39;t stay overnight. I also want to be able to get to my car if I want to at any given time, that%26#39;s all.

There are a couple of garages in the area. Jeresey city also has alot to offer as well here are a few links.

www.visit.org

www.destinationjerseycity.com

Great thanks! We went to South Jersey last year and it was great, NJ is a great place to visit.

Are those garage open 24h and can you leave your car there for a couple of days?

Most of the garages up by journal square you have to be out at a certan time.

The garages in the area are operated by Central Parking I believe

www.parking.com/geomapping/lotlist.aspx…

Try calling them (go to their contact page) and reference one of the garages on Washington Blvd. and see if they can give you some more info. I imagine that they would all be priced similarly, and at least a few must be open 24/7 as the hotels in the area use them.

Hyatt Place for bamboozle festival at giants stadium

Would this be a good choice for getting to the giants stadium, I see this hotel is nearer alot more than others nearer the stadium. Also the fact it has a room big enough for 5, would I be able to get to the stadium easy enough from harmon meadow/hyatt place hotel?

thanks for any help!

Hyatt Place for bamboozle festival at giants stadium

I would stay at the Hampton Inn in Carlstat right across the street from Giants Stadium. There is no bus sevice to the Meadowlands from Harmon Meadow. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact me or send me a PM.

Hyatt Place for bamboozle festival at giants stadium

Could one walk from the Hampton Inn to Giants Stadium?

Yes. I have done this walk before. Long but not that long. You%26#39;d be fine.

beaches?

We are going to be staying at the Embassy Suites in the Meadowlands from June 13 to June 15. I was wondering if there are any decent beaches that we could drive to. We will have a rental car.

Thanks.

beaches?

You will need to drive about an hour south to Monmouth County; the northern-most beach worth visiting is Sandy Hook (Gateway Nat%26#39;l Park). I would recommend you go a little further to exit 109 on the Garden State Parkway and find Donavan%26#39;s Reef in Sea Bright. It%26#39;s a fun beach with a bar, food, and live music on weekends. Brace yourselves to deal with heavy traffic while heading south on Friday and Saturday; leave early to come down. Also, there%26#39;s a fee to access most beaches and parking.

Have fun,

LuvBreezes

beaches?

Heard about that beach. Is it true that it is a nudist beach? I have two teenage sons coming along so I don%26#39;t want any surprises!

Thanks for your info.

There actually is a nude beach at Sandy Hook, but there are several miles of beachfront so it%26#39;s quite easy to avoid. It%26#39;s way, way down near the end; so if you%26#39;re driving in you won%26#39;t need to worry about coming even close to it. There is also a bar/restaurant called the Seagull%26#39;s Nest where you can grab a bite before heading home. By tradition, they sing God Bless America at sunset. Check it out if you go.

LuvBreezes

Thank you so much for the info

No problem; I live at the Jersey Shore so feel free to PM me if you want any more info. Are you going to the Meadowlands for a show?

Another popular one is Point Pleasant. It is around an hour%26#39;s drive from your hotel, I believe exit 98 on the Garden State Parkway. It has a boardwalk, games/rides, and would also be a good bet.

Another option for travel to the beach (if you don%26#39;t need the rental car) is to take the NJ transit train there. I don%26#39;t know if your hotel provides a free shuttle to the Secaucus NJ Transit station, but if they do then it would be doable:

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/rail/r0080.pdf

Point Pleasant is nice for kids. Nice beach as well.

Take a look at New Jersey Monthly - which is a magazine dedicated to NJ activities. They have a guide for shore locations.

njmonthly.com/articles/…100-shore-things.html

I have allways enjoyed Belmar.

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Some Info Please - Visiting AC in Oct

It has been well over twenty years since I have visited AC, and as Mom has returned to Staten Island, I am thinking of a road trip with my fiancee of six years.

We will be looking for a nice quiet place to stay - Nothing Fancy needed, but again Clean, Quiet and Safe.

The dates are as of yet not set in stone, but we will probably be staying three nights then a ride up Rt.s 1 %26amp; 9 up the coast to Staten Island for five nights.

Any info would be appreciated ;)

Thanks In Advance,

Keith

Some Info Please - Visiting AC in Oct

***I am thinking of a road trip with my fiancee of six years.***

Well, Keith, it seems you%26#39;re the type who doesn%26#39;t rush into things, so if you stick around you will get lots of responses. I guess the first question is: Are you a gambler? And the next question is: Do you have any interest in beach and Boardwalk?

Let us know your interests and we can be very helpful.

Sounds like a great road trip by the way.

Some Info Please - Visiting AC in Oct

Since your dates are not set,I%26#39;d suggest trying to be in AC mid-week. As the warmer weather arrives the prices of rooms increases. Weekends are very expensive. Try to book your rooms in advance as much as you can so you can get a room at your hotel of choice and at a good price.

Like already suggested some more detail about what you%26#39;re looking for will be helpful.

FineMind and JerrsNJ, thanks for the fast responses.

A little more info on us I guess is in order:

Both of us are in our mid-forties, Love the Gambling Scene although it%26#39;s mostly slots and VP.

I grew up in NJ and spent many wonderful summers in either Point Pleasant or the Freehold/Asbury Park area. Debbie, my fiancee has never been up the Jersey coast, so I thought it a nice drive. Last time I visited AC was to stay at the Claridge and do some work on the still un-open Taj.

We visit Las Vegas for ten days every May, Biloxi, Ms. no fewer then three times a year for a four night/five day visit, Tunica, Ms. at least twice a year, again for Four Night/Five days.

It will be a 11 hour drive from home to AC, and we plan to spend at least three or more days, then a nice leisurely drive up to Staten Island to visit with family, plus take Debbie over to Manhattan, allow her to try a real ';Pie';, enjoy some Dim Sun in China Town, I guess you all can figure out the rest.

The info needed for AC is mostly a clean, quiet and safe place to lay our heads for three nights at a reasonable rate. The only date set in stone is the month of Oct. and well we must be home for Halloween for our grand children ;)

Any and all info will be greatly appreciated ;)

Keith

Keith~

If you play at HET properties, you could try at the Marina for Harrah%26#39;s or Borgata. Both properties are very nice, with pools, no real beach to talk about. If you want to stay by the beach I would suggest Caesar%26#39;s. I am really most familiar with the HET proeprties. Caesar%26#39;s is in the center of the boardwalk. You could walk out street side to the outlets or beach side to the Pier. Check the websites and see which would better suit you. Have a great trip!

Deb

In October (especially if you go midweek) most if not all of the casinos should have ';reasonable'; rates.

Where do you stay when you stay in Vegas?

Margaritaville delayed... or dead

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entire article:

A.C. Trump Marina sale not imminent

ATLANTIC CITY — The company that owns the Trump Marina Hotel Casino said Wednesday its planned sale to a New York developer and former protege of Donald Trump will not happen soon.

Trump Entertainment Resorts said Thursday%26#39;s deadline to sell the struggling Atlantic City casino-hotel to Richard Fields will come and go. Company spokesman Tom Hickey said both sides are still interested in making it happen but can%26#39;t give an estimate as to when that might be.

A spokesman for Fields%26#39; company, Coastal Development LLC, which is based in Manhattan, declined comment Wednesday evening.

Fields announced plans a year ago to buy the casino and rebrand it as Margaritaville in partnership with the business operation of singer Jimmy Buffett.

The casino%26#39;s price already has been cut from $316 million to $270 million. It%26#39;s unclear whether a further price reduction might be made to facilitate the deal.

Trump Marina is the smallest and worst-performing of the three Atlantic City casinos owned by Trump Entertainment Resorts, which is in bankruptcy court.

In the first quarter of this year, Trump Marina reported a gross operating loss of $858,000, compared with a gross operating profit of $4.8 million last year.

The company has since hired a firm to market all three casinos, despite the proposed sale of the Marina.

The proposed sale also would settle litigation between Trump Entertainment and Fields over wooing of the Seminole Indian tribe to build a casino in Florida. Fields once represented Trump in talks with the tribe but didn%26#39;t complete a deal. He later joined with the Baltimore-based Cordish Co. to build the Hard Rock there, prompting Trump to sue.

Trump Marina covers 14 acres (5.7 hectares) and includes a 27-story hotel with 728 guest rooms, including 153 suites.

Margaritaville delayed... or dead

Sounds like Coastal is trying to get it for a rock bottom price. Good move in this environment. Casino income is down so why rush to build out a casino if waiting a few months will get a lower price. Should not wait much longer as it looks like the economy may start turning soon.

Would love to see it as I am a Parrothead.

Margaritaville delayed... or dead

i just hope something happens....anything for that matter. we enjoy the marina district and would hate to see it just shut down. I know the employees seemed thrilled when the proposed sale was announced

now i wonder if there just wondering day to day whats going to happen

Going to the Marina on Monday for a 2 day trip.

Hopefully they will have a few of the newer slots like Taj...last trip there wasn%26#39;t much of a change to the casino floor.

Good Luck!

I asked a Marina cashier about it over the Memorial Day weekend. They have no idea what is going to happen. She said they come to work every day and hope the doors are open. Working for an enterprise that annually loses millions and is owned by a bankrupt company doesn%26#39;t provide much job security. Gotta feel for the workers.

I%26#39;ve never even been to Trump Marina. Judging by the outside appearance, it%26#39;s nothing special.

I thought the idea of a Margaritaville hotel was totally cheesy! I get the whole boating thing, but all I can picture is a bunch of Hawaiian shirts and the smell of onion rings.

Let%26#39;s just say I call the place Dump Marina. Unless there was a major overhaul of the place, it was disgusting when I was last there.

I think MGM also pulled the plug on building next to the Borgata. I think it was set for 2012. Then there was Pinnacle in place of Sands. They imploded Sands in Dec 2007. Don%26#39;t know what the updates are on it. They were planning for 2011.

That%26#39;s hilarious because we call it Dump Marina too! The deck by the marina is nice though. MGM has their project on indefinite hold, and I don%26#39;t see them building anytime soon given the company%26#39;s financial situation. Pinnacle has all but pulled out.

Parville,

I do feel sorry for the employees with this whole sale in the air. Some have expressed they were happy to see the change and others were not so happy.

To those that think the Marina is a Dump...well to each there own in AC. That is why there is such a variety of places. We like the hotel suites and the smallness of the casino. Table dealers are nice and don%26#39;t have the problems of the beggers as we did when staying on the boardwalk.

Each casino has it%26#39;s good sides and bad sides. None are perfect.

Good Luck where ever you play.

I can%26#39;t say this comes as a surprise. Does anyone else but me think we might be overdoing it on the number of casinos? I realize Margaritaville would replace an existing casino - but things seem to be getting out of control. Casinos are no longer a guaranteed cash cow, and the more they build, the more diluted the profits are. As a player, the more the merrier but as an investor, no way.

ACM

I recently switched from the Trop to the Marina and quite honestly the people are alot nicer. Although the Trop is nicer to look at, has more shops, and is alot prettier, the Marina doesnt leave you feeling %26#39;lost%26#39;.

I was wondering if the switch to Margaritaville would change the personalities of the employees since its a larger and more %26#39;commercial%26#39; name.

And I agree with the above...Good Luck wherever you play.

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July 4th Fireworks at Liberty State Park

Hello, I would like to take my family to see the fireworks at the Statue of Liberty. Can you please give me advice on where a nice hotel is close to the monument? I appreciate any help you can give me. I am driving from Vineland New Jersey. Murph

July 4th Fireworks at Liberty State Park

You may want to try the Doubletree or Marriott near Newport Center - you can then take the Light Rail directly into the park - the new Westin or Hyatt will be more expensive but also in the same area. The Candlewood offers apartments and might be worth it if you plan to stay for more than a few days.

July 4th Fireworks at Liberty State Park

From what I read, the fireworks will actually be closer to midtown Manhattan than downtown (the Statue of Liberty is closer to downtown). If you really want a good view, try staying at the Sheraton Suites in Weehawken.

Also if you wanted to visit the Statue of Liberty separately, there is a light rail station near the Sheraton that would take you to the to the park:

http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0100.pdf

Thank you for your help. I will look into it. Thanks! Murph

Thanks for your help. Very informative. Murph

Jersey City puts on a fine fireworks display from Liberty State Park and the park can be fun and large enough for a family to spend the day leading up to the fireworks.

Mountain Lakes NJ From Philly

Is there a way of getting from Philly to Mointain Lakes NJ by public transport, train or bus?

We are visting Philly from UK and my son aged 20 wants to visit a friend in Mountain Lakes.

He is very confident/independant so would be happy for him to make the trip.

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Jim

Mountain Lakes NJ From Philly

Yes but only on weekdays and verry inderect. What you son would have to do is take the SEPTA R7 to Trenton. From Trenton he would either have to take New Jersey Transit to Newark Penn Station and change for the City Subway to broad st. for the MTN lakes train. Or he could change in Secacus for a Montclair train and change at Montclair for the Mountan lakes train. If it is a weekend the freind would probably have to pick him up in Denville. On weekends montclair trains wich is the line Mountain Lakes is on doesn%26#39;t run. He would have to take a Dover train to Denville, and get a ride from there. Here are a few links.

www.septa.org

www.njtransit.com

www.visitnj.org

Mountain Lakes NJ From Philly

Instead of doing the multiple train or bus transfer, what I%26#39;d do is take the bus straight from Philadelphia to NYC (www.boltbus.com). It is only a 90-minute ride.

Then from NYC, you can take Lakeland Bus (www.lakelandbus.com) or NJ Transit train to Mountain Lakes.

As mentioned, this is only doable on weekdays.

Hi

Many thanks for all your responses. I was hopeing the route would be a bit easier with less changes.

May end up giving him a lift part way.

Cheers

Jim

Now that is a Hot Table

Longest Streak at a craps table

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Now that is a Hot Table

Awesome! Longest roll I%26#39;ve been a part of was about 45 minutes. I can%26#39;t imagine 4 hours!

TC

Now that is a Hot Table

I saw this in the AC Press a couple of minutes ago. I don%26#39;t understand the game of craps but even as a novice I know that%26#39;s a long time.

Was anyone around to see this?

Anyone know how much she or others at the table won?

Was not there but I have been at a table that went around 1 1/2 hours through just three people. It was a nice take.

I am sure the table in this story punt a dent in the take for that day. That is the good/bad thing about craps. You can win or lose a lot of money quickly; so just add that up for four hours and it will be a lot of money.

When the table I was at went on that run they brought extra security to watch the table. I can imagine how many were watching this one.

Of course, this was the night I personally crapped out and went to bed at 8:30. I bet that was quite exciting!

WOW! The longest I%26#39;ve held the dice is about an hour and as a low roller made about a thou. I can%26#39;t imagine a 4 hour roll. There%26#39;s not enough room in the chip holders for all those chips unless they started bringing out the $100 and $500 chips to buy back the reds and greens. How much could a bigger player have made? How many stick changes did she make it through? Lately, I can%26#39;t find anyone to hold the dice more than 15 minutes let alone 4 hours, myself included.

This is why I love craps; when a table gets rolling it is exciting.

If someone was betting heavy it is conceivable that they could have walked with 10 grand or more. Besides pass line and odds bet; if you bet a number and kept pressing each time it hit that is a lot of money.

They probably went through more than ten stick people, or the same few rotated.

a friend of mine who only plays craps said the only sad part of this womans long roll was since it was only her 2nd time playing she probably didnt win half as much as the others at the table. according to her the others were probably pressing their bets like crazy making a killing while the woman probably was just caught up in her streak. still had to be a night she wont forget

True but she probably understands the game a lot better now. (I mean that in a good way).

I always tell friends who want to play but do not know how that you just have to play. The game will make sense the longer you play. People are intimated by the game since there is so much going on but when you do understand it can be loads of fun if you get a table on a streak.

I%26#39;m hearing the roller won 10K+ and another person at the table won 150k.

I don%26#39;t know the validity to those numbers, but that%26#39;s the word on the street.

TC

Very easy to believe.

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Steakhouse or Polistinas for Dinner?

Hi Everyone. We are going to Harrahs this weekend.

I know they are very different restaurants, but

can anyone please tell me which restaurant they have enjoyed better for a great dinner and what dishes they really liked. Thanks in advance.

Steakhouse or Polistinas for Dinner?

I never ate at Polistinas, but I%26#39;ve heard really good things about it.

I LOVE the Harrahs steakhouse.

It%26#39;s a difficult choice!

Steakhouse or Polistinas for Dinner?

Same as Ambrva - I%26#39;ve never tried Polistina%26#39;s because whenever I get near the Steakhouse I can%26#39;t resist it! The service, menu and food are top-notch. I%26#39;m sure Polistina%26#39;s is also that way - it may depend on what you%26#39;re in the mood for.

ACM

Thank you both so much. I believe we will try the Steakhouse.

Both of them have their menus online, so you can look and see which appeals to you more. http://tinyurl.com/o263qn

In the past we%26#39;ve loved them both but in the last 3-6 months they have changed the menu at Polistinas and we frankly liked the older menu better. We had a great birthday dinner at The Steak House this past weekend and I would have to say you can not go wrong there!

Either way you choose, you%26#39;re a winner.

The Steakhouse is the classier of the two, if you%26#39;re looking for atmosphere, but getting a table near the kitchen in Polistina%26#39;s is also a nice way to watch the cooks.

If you choose The Steakhouse....try the Cowboy Steak....YUM!

Enjoy

Bill

Harrah%26#39;s Steakhouse is one of my favorites. It%26#39;s really good.

New TA business hotel listings

TA has added an interesting new link for business travelers.

…nytimes.com/2009/…

For AC Borgata, Sheraton, Caesars are top for popularity. Sorting by Class give Borgata, Hilton, and Trump Plaza. Fountains, Lafayette, Quality Inn [???] come up best by price.

www.tripadvisor.com/BusinessCenter-g29750-Atlantic_City_New_Jersey.html#02,1243637287517,sortOrder:SpriceLow,l1price:S0|999999,l1rating:S0|999999,nameContains:S

Tropicana Sold...Well Almost

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Tropicana Sold...Well Almost

I was curious about a couple things and thought others might be interested as it looks like the Trop is going to go for $200 million.

The Trop cost almost $400 to build when it opened Nov. 23, 1981 with 521 rooms.

In 1995 a 604 room tower was added and in 2004 they completed the Havana tower (502 rooms), a new parking garage, retail space, and convention areas.

Columbia Sussex bought Aztar Corp in 2005 for 2.75 Billion.

Now the Trop is going to go for $200 million.... wow

I know that the 2.75 billion figure also included the Vegas Trop (which Columbia still has). But I thought the figures were mind blowing. $200 million is less than half what it cost to build the original structure in 1981.

Tropicana Sold...Well Almost

Sorry - LOL The trop cost almost $400 MILLION, not 400 dollars to build.

When it first went on sale it was worth 1 billion. That%26#39;s what poor times can do.

“lenders headed by billionaire financier Carl C. Icahn appears to have locked up ownership of Tropicana Casino and Resort for the bargain-basement price of $200 million after no other bids were received . . . . a potential buyer has expressed interest and may be allowed to submit a late bid if it is approved by a U.S. Bankruptcy Court judge. . . . A competing bid could force a bankruptcy auction on June 5.”

pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/articl…

That%26#39;s what I was thinking, but I was just corrected. Apparently Ichan holds like a billion in debt and he won%26#39;t make them pay that if his $200 million offer is accepted.

So actual sales price is equivalent to $1.2 billion? $200 million sales price and $1 billion forgiven debt?

Maybe some of the AC winners who post here are trying to come up with $201 million?

“The Icahn-led lenders already hold a $1.4 billion mortgage on Tropicana.”

Having a money making business like the Trop is worth a lot more than sitting on some papers that might take years %26amp; years to collect on, if ever. I’m sure they did all the numbers.

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